Posted by Comfyayak.com on September 17, 2012 at 8:02 AM under
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The number one question we get at
Comfykayak.com is: "I have a sit inside kayak and all the seats on your website appear to be for sit-inside kayaks. What should I do?" As we refer customers on our recently revised homepage, the short answer is that you will want to visit our
Kayak Back Bands page and have a look at several options available for sit-inside kayak owners. Out of these the
Tall Back Band (
TBB100) from
Surf to Summit is the only one that offers what many sit-inside kayak owners are looking for: mid to upper back support. Most back bands essentially only support your lower back, but the
Tall Back Band is a 14" high seat back that also flexes to allow some contouring to the shape of your back. The one major drawback of the
Tall Back Band is that it is 23" wide and many longer kayaks like some ocean or touring kayaks have very narrow cockpits. A general rule is that the
Tall Back Band will flex to accommodate cockpits as narrow as 19" across, but if you are a larger person, this could feel quite snug as it will need to flex, coming forward on the sides to wrap around your body. We have encouraged Surf to Summit to come up with a smaller version of the
TBB100 for smaller kayaks.
The next best option is the
Deluxe Back Band from
Watersports Warehouse, which at 12" high is a little shorter but still offers more mid back support than your average narrow back band. It lacks the solid PVC plastic backing of the
TBB100 so while it is not as sturdy, the support coming from two short plastic battens on either side of the main part of the seat back, it will also flex much easier and so will fit in a wider variety of cockpits.
As for the seat cushion, you can select from several options on our
Cushions and Pads page. Our top-seller is the
Classic Paddling Cushion from
Skwoosh, now available with AirFlo-3D, a fabric designed to breathe and stay drier. Pairing a
Back Band with a
Seat Cushions is the simplest solution for the sit-inside kayak owner. Why is that? And have you got your eye on one of the many full kayak seats with seat back and seat cushion attached that we offer? Here's the thing: figuring out how to install a full kayak seat inside of a sit-inside kayak can be very challenging and basically none of our suppliers offer any support for such an endeavour. This is not to say that it cannot be done, just that you're basically on your own. The first step would be to match the measurements of your cockpit with the dimensions of the seat. Many of the seat backs on full seats could be too wide to allow the seat to slide down inside your kayak and so just wouldn't work. The next major issue is strapping. Most full seats, being designed with sit-on-top kayaks in mind are engineered so that both the forward and rear straps angle downward and sort of anchor the seat in position. In a sit-inside kayak, generally, your forward straps go straight forward and the rear straps, when there are any, generally go straight back. Some sit-inside kayaks offer no space behind the seat back, so you are left with the only option being to attach your rear straps atop the rear deck of your kayak. Since sit-inside kayak manufacturers will not have thought to accommodate this option, you will either need a
rivet gun and some rivets to install some pad eyes (a/k/a deck loops or grommets) for attaching the brass clips, or some steel screws and as screwdriver to attach the the straps directly (less recommended). [Note: We do offer a
rivet gun on our site that can be purchased along with pop rivets and pad eyes as well as screws, but at this time we do not sell the hardware separtely.]
So as you can see, installing a full seat in your sit-inside kayak can be a lot of work and we cannot guarantee you'll be happy with the result. Still, if you are determined, we recommend you look at our selection of
Skwoosh brand seats as a first option, since these are quite flexible and can in some cases be fitted over an existing seat back. Plus they have the wonderful gel cushion built right in.
Watersports Warehouse seats have a very similar design and come with the option of upgrading to the Deluxe Comfy Foam padding for extra comfort.
If you are a sit-on-top kayak owner reading this, well, the world is your oyster! Basically all you need to do is find the seat that suits your fancy, buy it, and clip it on. For full seats, the brass clips come standard and the length of the forward and rear straps are adjustable, so you're good to go.